Researching  Mathias Fox, wife Susan, daughter Mary m. William Passmore

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General

Mathias Fox's Family

Mathias Fox, b. ABT 1790 re 1850 and other census records.
m. Susan (Susanna) last name unknown, certainly before 1827, possibly much earlier
Susan, b. ABT 1791 re 1850 and other census records
Children listed in 1850 census: It's unlikely that the couple started having children when she was 36 in 1827.  The Matthias Fox family of the 1830 census in Penn Township, Lycoming County, Pa census, when only Elizabeth of the above children would have been born:

Query

I've wil post this to the Clearfield and Lycoming county boards, Foxhounds, and will put it elsewhere (PalAm, perhaps Berks Co.).
The Commemorative Biographical Record of Clearfield Co states, "On attaining to man's estate Mr. [William H.] Passmore of this review, was united in marriage with Miss Mary Fox, of Lycoming county, Penn., a daughter of Mathias and Susan Fox, well-to-do farming people, who came to Brady Township, Clearfield county, from Lycoming county in 1836, and located near Troutville."  I have located Mathias and Susan in Lycoming Co in the 1820 and 1830 census, possibly in Clearfield in 1840, and in Jefferson Co adjoining Brady Township in 1850.  He was born circa 1790, wife Susan circa 1791, and they had at least 8 children, the last of whom were Elizabeth, Mary, and Mathias. Before 1820, there are no Foxes in the Lycoming Co. census.  Did Mathias come from the (then) adjoining counties of Luzerne or Northumberland, where there are many Foxes, or is he related to Mathias Fox of Berks or Adams county seen in the 1810 census? Any help appreciated!

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Searched for Where Date Results
Mathias Fox, Lycoming County, Pa Web via Google 7.2.2003
Mathias/Matthias Fox, Pa 1820 census, Ancestry.com
Mathias/Matthias Fox, Pa 1830 census, Ancestry.com 7.2.2003 Misindexed as "Mathilas Fox"
Mathias/Matthias Fox, Pa 1840 census, Ancestry.com 7.2.2003
Fuchs, Fox 1790 census, Ancestry.com 7.2.2003 Fuchs: 11 matches, "Adan" in Phila, 10 in Berks Co: Jno, Adam, Henry, Chrisn, Ernst, Mathias, Margaret, Theodore, Jacob.
Fox: Mathias Fox in Chester Co; other matches not recorded.
Mathias Fox, John Fox, Matthias Fox, John Fuchs World Family Tree at Ancestry.com 7.2.2003 Some John Fox matches, but none in Lycoming Co or likely to match our family.  No Mathias/Matthias.

Results

My GEDCOM Entry

0 @I411@ INDI
1 NAME Mathias /Fox/
1 REFN P196
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
  2 DATE ABT 1790
  2 SOUR 1850 Census, Gaskill Twp, Jefferson Co, Pa, p. 102
1 NCHI 8
  2 NOTE If (big if) the "Micheal" Fox in the 1840 census in Brady Twp
    3 CONT is really Matthew, then he is listed with 5 sons and
    3 CONT 3 daughters.  The ages of the youngest are consistent
    3 CONT with Elizabeth, Mary, and Mathias, Jr.  There is no
    3 CONT Michael Fox in Clearfield in 1850 or 1830, and Mathias
    3 CONT is placed in Brady Twp by the Commem Bio Encyc.  One of
    3 CONT children, Mathias Jr, is buried in Brady Twp.
    3 CONT There is another Fox buried next to Mathias, a William,
    3 CONT born 1837, died 1858 according to the transcription,
    3 CONT son of M & M. A. Fox, which doesn't fit anywhere, since
    3 CONT the wife of Mathias is Susana, not M.A., and no son
    3 CONT William is not listed in the 1850 census. Not even "Micheal"
    3 CONT Fox is listed with a son of age 0-5 in 1840.
  2 NOTE The only Mathias Fox indexed in the 1840 census is in Beaver
    3 CONT County, and is not our man.
  2 NOTE In 1830 the only Mathias Fox indexed is in Montgomery Co,
    3 CONT but that's because our guy is listed as "Mathilas Fox"
    3 CONT in Lycoming Co.  In 1830, he's listed with 4 sons ages
    3 CONT 0-15 and 2 daughers 0-10.
  2 NOTE In 1810 no Foxes are indexed in Lycoming (which did exist,
    3 CONT I checked) but there is a Mathias each in Berks and Adams.
    3 CONT The former is in Ruscomanor Twp, m 01101, f 00101, therefore
    3 CONT 45 years or older = b < 1765. Next to him is an Ernst Fox
    3 CONT age 16 to 26 who could be a son.  Our Mathias would be age 20,
    3 CONT and so could be a son in the third category (16 to 26).
    3 CONT We have no information to link them to Berks Co, but as
    3 CONT he's listed as born in Pa in later censuses, we should
    3 CONT find him in Pa at this date.
    3 CONT The latter indexed Mathias Fox is in Canowago Twp,  m 01001, f 40010, therefore a
    3 CONT man around 45 years of age, born around 1765.
  2 NOTE In 1800, there is a Matthias Fox in Pikeland Twp, Chester Co.,
    3 CONT who is 26-45 years old (b. 1755-1775, could be same as in
    3 CONT in Berks in 1810), 3 sons age 0-10 (one could be Mathias, b. 1790).
  2 NOTE In 1790, there is a Matthias Fox in Charlestown Twp, Chester Co.,
    3 CONT whose family entry is 124, i.e. 1 child < 16, 2 males 16-26,
    3 CONT 4 females (no information on age).
1 DEAT
  2 DATE AFT 1850
  2 SOUR 1850 Census, Gaskill Twp, Jefferson Co, Pa, p. 102
  2 NOTE Follow up in unindexed 1860 census, etc.
1 EVEN
  2 Resided
  2 PLACE Lycoming, PA, US
  2 SOUR @S81@
  2 NOTE End of residence =  1836
  2 NOTE Text from Commem Bio Encyc, entry for W. Harrison Passmore: "    On attaining to man's estate Mr. Passmore of this review, was united in
    3 CONT marriage with Miss Mary Fox, of Lycoming county, Penn., a daughter of Mathias
    3 CONT and Susan Fox, well-to-do farming people, who came to Brady township,
    3 CONT Clearfield county, from Lycoming county in 1836, and located near Troutville,
    3 CONT where the father followed agricultural pursuits until his death.  The mother
    3 CONT survived him a few years, and died at the home of our subject."
1 EVEN
  2 Resided
  2 DATE FROM 1836
  2 PLACE , Troutville, Clearfield, PA, US
  2 SOUR @S81@
1 EVEN
  2 Resided
  2 DATE 1850
  2 PLACE , , Gaskill, Jefferson, PA, US
  2 SOUR 1850 Census
1 FAMS @F243@

Census

1790 Census

Our Mathias was born about 1790, might be listed as a child < 16 in the 1790 census.

__ what are the boundaries of Berks in 1790?  What other counties exist?
Mathias Fuchs of Oley Township, Berks Co, 1 male > 16, 3 females.  Age > 16 = b. <= 1774.
Below him: Ernst Fucks, 1 male > 16, 2 males 0-16, 3 females.
9 others in Berks Co: Jno, Adam, Henry, Chrisn, Ernst, Margaret, Theodore, Jacob; plus an "Adan" in Phila.

1800 Census

Our Mathias was born about 1790, might be listed as a child < 16 in the 1800 census.

There are 106 Foxes in Pennsylvania in 1810, and Fuches.  Some selected counties:
Berks: Adam, Jacob, Christian, Andrew, Christian, David, John, David, Christian, David, John, Adam, Nicholas Fox.
    Matthias in Brecknock Twp, m 10010, f 10100 = he 26-45, wife 16-26, 2 children 0-10, therefore he likely 26-30 = b. 1770-1774.  Wife young for
    ...and other Fuchses
Chester: Matthias and Jacob (I read John?) Fox, Pikeland Township, plus Benjamin, Upper Oxford - names Matthias and Benjamin  appear 1830 in Lycoming (but Benjamin is a young man)!  Names Mathias and John appear in Lycoming in 1820.
    Matthias, Pikeland Twp,
    Jacob, Pikeland Twp, m 00010 f 20100

1810 Census

Our Mathias was born about 1790, could be living at home or independently at age 20.
No Foxes or Fuchses indexed in Lycoming County, may indicate that John and Mathias moved there in their 20's.
In 1810 no Foxes are indexed in Lycoming (which did exist, I checked) but there is a Mathias each in Berks and Adams.
There are 153 Foxes indexed in Pa, and no Fuchses (which seems rather unlikely).
The counties bordering Lycoming today are from Northwest clockwise: Potter, Tioga, Bradford, Sullivan, Columbia, Northumberland, Union, and Clinton.  In 1810, they would have been Potter, Tioga, Luzerne, Northumberland, Centre, Clearfield.
Foxes in those counties:  [Maybe one should follow up the 7 Johns, as Mathias may have a brother John?  See below John Fox in Luzerne County.]

Of the 2 Mathias, and some Johns:

1820 Census

Our Mathias was born about 1790, should be age 30, and have 1 son (re 1830 census results)
He's indexed as Matthias Fox at Ancestry.com:
Muncy Creek  Twp, Lycoming Co, Pa., p. __: m 100010, f 00010.  He and she age 26-44 = b. 1776-1794, One son <= 10.  1 person is engaged in agriculture, none are foreigners (unnaturalized).

The only other Fox in Lycoming Co is probably a brother (judging by age, and the fact that he's in the same township):
John Fox, m 400010, f 00010, 1 person engaged in manufacturing.  He and she age 26-44 = b. 1776-1794, 4 sons <= 10.

Benjamin Fox who appears in the 1830 census in Lycoming Co does not appear here.

The only Mathias Fox indexed at Ancestry.com lives in Montgomery Co on the border to Ohio, which is unlikely given that Mary b 1832 was born in Lycoming Co in NE Pa. (People seldom moved west to east in those days.)
Mathias Fox, _ Twp, Montgomery Co, p. __: m 201101, f 12001.  He age > 45, wife age > 45. = not our guy. He would fall in the 5th column, so he's not listed as a son either.
 
 

1830 Census

Our Mathias was born about 1790, should be age 40, and we found him in Lycoming County: The only other Fox in Lycoming Co is Benjamin Fox, in Jackson Twp.  He is of age 20-30, has a wife age 20-30, and a daughter 0-5.  This mean he is born 1800-1810.

John Fox who appears in the 1830 census in Lycoming Co does not appear here.

1840 Census

"Micheal" Fox, Brady Twp, Clearfield Co - his children match the ages of Mathias from 1830, and there is no Micheal or Michael in Clearfield Co in 1830 or 1850, so I suspect this is a misspelling or middle name of Mathias.  The Commem Bio Ency clearly states that Mathias moved to Brady Twp in 1836.
    5 sons ___ add age categories, correlation with children A-D from 1830.
    3 daughters.

1850 Census

Gaskill Twp, Jefferson Co, Pa, p. 102.  This borders Clearfield Co, Brady Twp.
Mathias Fox, b. ABT 1790
Susan, b. ABT 1791
Children: The only Fox in Clearfield Co is
John Fox, farmer, age 28 = b. 1832.  Age right to be son of Mathias, but then would be same age as Mary.  Still possible those.  John has wife A. Eliza, but no children.

1860 Census

The 1860 Clearfield Co census is not even sub-divided into townships at Ancestry, making it hard even to browse. Brady Township starts at image 60. Saw Henry Young, p.63; John Wagoner, Thomas + Samuel Young, image 64. After a few pages we're back into Burnside Twp? More Brady Twp at image 121 to 164 - no Foxes or Passmores. Gratz Johnston, image 129. Hannah Taylor, image 122. James Taylor, ditto. Eli Fy, dau Eliza, image 143. Elizabeth Johnston, image 146. John Fy, image 155, page 414.
Jeff Co does list townships - browsed Gaskill Twp: no Foxes found.

1870 Census

Not indexed, but divided into townships at least. Checked all 51 pages of Brady Township by hand - no Foxes. Harrison Passmore is there, and his mother-in-law is not living with him - which could mean she and Mathias are still living, or both are already dead.
Actually should check Jeff Co, Gaskill Twp. ___

1880 Census

Checked the Mormon index for the 1880 census: Foxes in Clearfield Co born before 1850: John, Benjamin, etc.
Benjamin FOX Household 
    Male   
  
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  Other Information: 
    Birth Year <1816>  
    Birthplace PA  
    Age 64  
    Occupation Farmer  
    Marital Status M   
    Race W   
    Head of Household Benjamin FOX 
    Relation Self  
    Father's Birthplace ---  
    Mother's Birthplace ---  
  
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  Source Information: 
    Census Place Lawrence, Clearfield, Pennsylvania  
    Family History Library Film 1255116 
    NA Film Number T9-1116 
    Page Number 129D 

John FOX Household 
    Male   
  
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  Other Information: 
    Birth Year <1823>  
    Birthplace PA  
    Age 57  
    Occupation Farmer  
    Marital Status M   
    Race W   
    Head of Household John FOX 
    Relation Self  
    Father's Birthplace PA  
    Mother's Birthplace PA  
  
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  Source Information: 
    Census Place Knox, Clearfield, Pennsylvania  
    Family History Library Film 1255116 
    NA Film Number T9-1116 
    Page Number 267D 

Eliza FOX Household 
    Female   
  
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  Other Information: 
    Birth Year <1827>  
    Birthplace PA  
    Age 53  
    Occupation Keeping House  
    Marital Status M   
    Race W   
    Head of Household John FOX 
    Relation Wife  
    Father's Birthplace PA  
    Mother's Birthplace PA  
  
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  Source Information: 
    Census Place Knox, Clearfield, Pennsylvania  
    Family History Library Film 1255116 
    NA Film Number T9-1116 
    Page Number 267D 
Mary E. FOX Household 
    Female   
  
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  Other Information: 
    Birth Year <1842>  
    Birthplace PA  
    Age 38  
    Occupation Keeping House  
    Marital Status M   
    Race W   
    Head of Household Lewis FOX 
    Relation Wife  
    Father's Birthplace PA  
    Mother's Birthplace PA  
  
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  Source Information: 
    Census Place Du Bois, Clearfield, Pennsylvania  
    Family History Library Film 1255116 
    NA Film Number T9-1116 
    Page Number 40B 

Mary L. FOX Household 
    Female   
  
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  Other Information: 
    Birth Year <1849>  
    Birthplace PA  
    Age 31  
    Occupation Keeping House  
    Marital Status M   
    Race W   
    Head of Household Franklin FOX 
    Relation Wife  
    Father's Birthplace PA  
    Mother's Birthplace PA  
  
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  Source Information: 
    Census Place Sandy, Clearfield, Pennsylvania  
    Family History Library Film 1255116 
    NA Film Number T9-1116 
    Page Number 29D 

Foxes in Jefferson Co born before 1850: oldest is John, b. 1833. Passmore in Clearfield Co born before 1850: Harrison, etc.
Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace 
 Harrison PASSMORE   Self   M   Male   W   48   PA   Black Smith   PA   PA  
 Mary PASSMORE   Wife   M   Female   W   48   PA   Keeping House   PA   PA  
 Austin I. PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   17   PA   Black Smith   PA   PA  
 C. B. Mc. PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   15   PA   Black Smith   PA   PA  
 Dellie PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   13   PA      PA   PA  
 William PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   10   PA      PA   PA  


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Source Information:
  Census Place Brady, Clearfield, Pennsylvania 
  Family History Library Film   1255116 
  NA Film Number   T9-1116 
  Page Number   65B 

W. Harrison's brother George:
Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace 
 George PASSMORE   Self   M   Male   W   40   PA   Blacksmith   PA   PA  
 Catharine PASSMORE   Wife   M   Female   W   39   PA   Keeping House   PA   PA  
 Henritta JOHNSON   Dau   M   Female   W   18   PA      PA   PA  
 Miles JOHNSON   SonL   M   Male   W   22   PA   Laborer   PA   PA  
 Effie PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   15   PA   Going To School   PA   PA  
 Luther PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   11   PA      PA   PA  
 Elwood PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   6   PA      PA   PA  
 Lizzie J. PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   4   PA      PA   PA  
 Sherman PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   1   PA      PA   PA  


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Source Information:
  Census Place Greenwood, Clearfield, Pennsylvania 
  Family History Library Film   1255116 
  NA Film Number   T9-1116 
  Page Number   263A 

W. Harrison's brother Harvey:
Household Record  1880 United States Census  
   
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  Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace 
 Harvey PASSMORE   Self   M   Male   W   42   PA   Farmer   PA   PA  
 Margaret A. PASSMORE   Wife   M   Female   W   42   PA   Keeping House   PA   PA  
 John H. PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   11   PA      PA   PA  
 Lillie PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   7   PA      PA   PA  
 Alice PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   3   PA      PA   PA  
 Lois PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   1   PA      PA   PA  
 Dora S. SMEAL   Dau   S   Female   W   17   PA      PA   PA  
 Barbara C. STAGE   Other      Female   W   23   PA   Servant   PA   PA  
 James HUFF   Other   W   Male   W   56   PA   Blacksmith   PA   PA  
 Kay BERRY   Other   S   Male   W   30   PA   Laborer   PA   PA  
 William KENNEDY   Other   S   Male   W   42   PA   Stone Mason   PA   PA  
 Thomas KENNEDY   Other   S   Male   W   36   PA   Stone Mason   PA   PA  
 Frank MOSSOSS   Other   S   Male   W   30   PA   Laborer   PA   PA  
 John BOYLAND   Other   S   Male   W   25   PA   Laborer   PA   PA  
 Dennis MC DONALD   Other   S   Male   W   21   PA   Laborer   PA   PA  
 Thomas KING   Other   S   Male   W   24   PA   Picture Dealer   PA   PA  
 Caroline LUCAS   Other   S   Female   W   13   PA   Servant   PA   PA  


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Source Information:
  Census Place Clearfield, Clearfield, Pennsylvania 
  Family History Library Film   1255116 
  NA Film Number   T9-1116 
  Page Number   159C
Eli Passmore - not sure if I know him:
Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace 
 Eli L. PASSMORE   Self   M   Male   W   30   PA   Farmer   PA   PA  
 Caroline PASSMORE   Wife   M   Female   W   36   PA   Keeping House   PA   PA  
 Charles PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   10   PA      PA   PA  
 Walter PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   6   PA      PA   PA  
 Alta PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   1   PA      PA   PA  
 Elias MC CRACKEN   Other   S   Male   W   26   PA   Works In Woods   PA   PA  


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Source Information:
  Census Place Greenwood, Clearfield, Pennsylvania 
  Family History Library Film   1255116 
  NA Film Number   T9-1116 
  Page Number   263B
Cousin? Hiram:
Household Record  1880 United States Census  
   
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  Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace 
 Hiram PASSMORE   Self   M   Male   W   54   PA   Farmer   PA   PA  
 Lidia PASSMORE   Wife   M   Female   W   49   PA   Keeping House   PA   PA  
 Delila PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   24   PA   At Home   PA   PA  
 Joseph PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   21   PA   Laborer   PA   PA  
 Samuel PASSMORE   Son   S   Male   W   18   PA   Laborer   PA   PA  
 Rebecca PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   15   PA   At Home   PA   PA  
 Harriet PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   12   PA   At Home   PA   PA  
 Lovina PASSMORE   Dau   S   Female   W   9   PA   At Home   PA   PA  


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Source Information:
  Census Place Ferguson, Clearfield, Pennsylvania 
  Family History Library Film   1255116 
  NA Film Number   T9-1116 
  Page Number   277C

John Fox in Luzerne County

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Other Foxes/Fuchses: Possible Relations, Long Shots, Non-Relations